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From:  "Caio Rossi" <caioross@z...>
Date:  Mon Apr 17, 2000  12:37 am
Subject:  Re: [vocalist-temporary] Question about affirmations


Judy wrote:

>If you don't believe that affirmations will help, then they probably won't.
>But if you haven't given it an open-minded try, how can you say whether it
is
>good or bad?

I'll be logical here. I'll assume this premise: we don't know if
affirmations work or not. Given that, let's analyze the scenarios:

1st: affirmations do work: but as we don't know if they work or not, it
means we don't believe them, therefore we can't use them, since you yourself
said above and 'affirmationists' say everywhere that, in order for them to
work, you have to believe them in the first place;

2nd: affirmations don't work: if we try to use them, regardless of the fact
that we don't believe them, they won't work anyway. If we don't try to use
them, we won't be wasting our precious time on useless things.

Logical conclusions: one who's not sure affirmations work or not, should
only use them if they showed to be effective for those individuals who don't
believe them, what's impossible given again what you said above. And using
the fact that those who believe them may achieve their goals as an evidence
of their effectiveness disregards the fact that they do also work hard ( as
you defend in the quotes below, which I'll also comment on ), and also
disregards that those who don't believe them but work hard may also achieve
their goals, what makes hard work the factor most likely to explain the
achievement in both cases.

I feel so aristotelian lately! :-)

>Also, I don't think that Dr. Diane meant to suggest that one could achieve
a
>good technique (whether that be lowered larynx, correct breathing or
>whatever) without the help of a qualified specialist--in this case, a good
>voice teacher!

You don't think she meant that, and neither do I. When you quoted me, you
left out this: 'If I believed affirmations help, I would tell the person to
try them WHILE having a specialist's help.****I'm sure you meant to say the
same, but you just didn't*****. Sorry if that's the case but one can only
know what is overtly expressed, mostly in written communication.'
Pls, next time, don't twist my thought by accidental ( I hope so ) or
intentional selective and mileading quotes.

Bye,

Caio



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