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From:  "Caio Rossi" <caioross@z...>
"Caio Rossi" <caioross@z...>
Date:  Tue Oct 24, 2000  1:14 pm
Subject:  Re: [vocalist-temporary] Empirical Science (LONG)


Les wrote:

> >You can't
> > touch, see, hear, smell or taste an electron. Is it real if you
> can't sense
> > it or just some abstract idea?

and Kevin commented:
>
> You can't sense it with the limited resources of the human body but
> you can detect it. I think you may be getting out of your depth here.

Take Les's comment as an evidence of what I said before about subjectivity
as the measure of real world. Les: how does your subjectivity perceive an
atomic bomb? And how can you watch TV without electrons? How can your
nervous system detect ELECTRic signals if ELECTRONS are 'just some abstract
idea'?. You must have come up with the best way to avoid Aids: just ignore
the existence of the HIV virus! No campaigns, no disease! I just don't
understand how the first HIV-positive detected patient contracted it! :-)

>
> >It is amusing and ironic that mathematics is
> > considered to be so scientific but in fact, it only deals with
> concepts and
> > nothing real! One and one are two, but can you hold a "one" in your
> hand? How
> > about a zero?:-)

How can your concept of what science and art exist if you can hold a concept
with your hands? And can you hold your singing in your hands?

>
> > The problem with theory is that it is never absolute fact. It's
> always a mere
> > educated guess because there's always the possibility that our
> information is
> > incomplete or wrong.

If you can't say something just because 'there's always the possibilty that
our information is incomplete or wrong', how can you say that's the problem
with theory if your information may be incomplete or wrong?

Bye, and pls don't take this personally.

Caio Rossi



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