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From:  "Hanna Graeffe" <hanna.graeffe@h...>
Date:  Thu Feb 27, 2003  5:17 pm
Subject:  Rolling R's

Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 16:18:09 -0000
From: "lestaylor2003 <LesTaylor@a...
Subject: Re: Rolling R's

"I really think sometimes the disability is inherent. I wonder if
anybody who lives in a country where they roll R's regularly, has
noticed this disability among their population. Italians? English?
Scots? Swedes? Norwegians? Suomi?"

I noticed this thread while skimming a lot of posts... Here in
Finland, we roll all our R's. Most children learn the rolling R like
any other sound, but some don't, without the help of a speech
therapist. The children who don't manage the rolling R before their
6th birthday usually get sent to the speech therapist. My son
participated in a "R school", where a small group of kids with the
same problem mainly just played different games and had fun -- and
learned their R's. In my son's class in the school, first year (they
were 6-7 years old), there were maybe 4-5 children out of 25 who had
problems either with R or s.

I would guess that with a severe tongue tie (the tongue is attached
with a very short frenulum), it would be difficult to make a rolling
R. You have to be able to lift your tongue up to the "roof". Inherent
disability.. haven't heard of. If it exists, it can't be anything very
usual. It is very very seldom you hear an adult (or anyone over, say,
8 years) use a non-rolling R in Finnish.

My guess is, if you're only learning the rolling R for the sake of
singing (non-professional?), you aren't as motivated to learn it as
those who need it in their mother tongue every day and all the time.
And even if you are motivated, do you get help from a speech
therapist, if s/he is not trained or used to teach that particular
sound? And would you even go so far?

Hanna G
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