> Caio>> Among those marketable properties she has, you have to include WHAT
> she
> > does. She doesn't have to be appreciated by Vocalisters to have a
> successful
> > career. People like WHAT she does.
>
> Richard>My point is that it wouldn't matter what kind of music she did, or
> even what field or the entertainment business. Look at the Olsen twins for
> an equivalent. People love an angelic little girl hugging a teddy bear and
> will throw money at the image regardless of what it's selling.
>
> Brightman is an adult, and I've seen her a little overweight on TV, but,
> regardless of that, she's also successful in the "pseudo opera" market.
>
LOOK AT HER EYES!!! She can't get enough of the "angel" thing! (Angel of
Music, the Phantom of the Opera) Besides, Sarah sings a lot of pop
songs, and in this field her voice is really pretty and really sweet, i
even like her in musicals but she's going mad and doing things she never
should. I heard on the net she singing Ah Non Credea Mirarti and Ah non
giunge uman pensiero! If you ever hear it you'll wanna die immediately!
>
> Caio> It may be also because of "who" she is as
> > a marketable product ( a young talent, cute, etc, etc ) but I don't buy
> that
> > as the only explanation. People DO like her voice.
>
> Richard> If it were a full-grown woman with the same voice, I doubt anybody
> would care. The appreciation of her voice is *very* colored by her image<
>
> If you were a full-grown woman with the SAME voice, you'd be in a freak show
> with the bearded lady and the cyclope.
>
You got the idea, =)
>
> Caio> Regarding Bocelli, I think he just happens to be blind and that has
> little
> > to do with his success.
>
> Richard:>You're joking, right? His marketing heavily plays up his
> blindness - it isn't incidental at all.
>
> He'd still have to have a voice and a repertoire that people enjoy listening
> to, even if that voice were electronically fabricated. And, as I said, I can
> remember being the first to tell many people who had enjoyed his music for a
> long time that he's blind. They didn't have any idea of that.
>
Why do you think he's always blinking? How many blind people you know
that blink all the time? Have you ever seen a video of his where he
rides a horse with his eyes shut? Some people may miss this but i doubt
that if you have two or more cds of his, that you ignored that.
> And that despite the fact that 3 overweight "grandpas" are
> not the recipe for a popular hit? But people bought their CDs anyway,
> enjoyed their voices and repertoire. That's why I think you're
> oversimplifying things.
>
It's not the same thing, Caio...
>
> Caio>Then you may say he's not a good opera singer and
> > people like him, so it can only be because of his blindness and for being
> > Latin ( btw, Latins don't exist anymore, you barbarian! hehe ).
>
> Richard> What I'm saying is, the voice being equal, a white American guy
> with no disability would not have the career or the attention that Boccelli
> is getting right now.
>
> But that still doesn't explain Church's and Brightman's successful careers
> worldwide.
>
Oh "angel" how cute! ;)
> And you're treating Boccelli as if he were a phenomenon in
> America only, but it's not true. His being Latin is not remarkable in
> Latin
> countries, where EVERYONE is Latin, but he's also very successful in
> these
> countries. The explanation must lie somewhere else.
Nope in Brazil it's not being 'latin' is being Italian ;) Romantic
songs...
Bruna
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