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From:  "Sandra" <sandra@i...>
Date:  Sat Apr 22, 2000  1:50 am
Subject:  Re: [vocalist-temporary] hour-glass passaggio concept




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> Sandra wrote :
>
> << Also, can someone explain to me the difference between clearing the
first
> passaggio and the second? Is the tendency to close the vowels going
> through both? Do you close more through one than the other? I don't
think
> I really understand the difference between the first and second
passaggio.>>
>

Alain responded:

> What do you mean by "clearing"?
> And what do you call your first passaggio? As a woman, it could designate
> either the passaggio between your chest and mixed voice or the point when
> you must begin to go into more head voice - a point that divide your low
> medium from your high medium, where you may experience a passaggio or
not.

Hi Alain-

By the term "clearing" I mean successfully singing all of the notes up and
down the scale without a noticeable break or change in timbre or color.
Does that make any sense? By first passaggio, I think I am talking about
the passaggio between the chest and mixed voice. It starts at about at D#
below high C in me. From this D# to about F# I tend to lose strength in
the "carrying power" of my vowels (the ring/ping-whatever you would call
it) and have to be very careful to get a balance of chest v. head voice
elements. Does that sound about right for a description of the passaggio
between chest and head?

And I'm still not sure what "second passaggio" means. I have heard and
read about the "second passaggio", but haven't been able to relate it to
what I experience personally very well. Without any conscientious
adjustments on my part, my voice would tend to lose strength at the D# to
F# (below high C), then pick back up in strength from about G to A (below
high C). Then about at A#, it fades out again unless I make some kind of
adjustment. My teacher tells me at the A# I have to "look for a higher
position." He doesn't talk much in terms of passaggio, he speaks more in
terms of "placement" and "position" coupled with terms such as "forward"
and "higher". Does this sound A# point sound like what you referred to as
"the point you must begin to go into more head voice - a point that divide
your low medium from your high medium, where you may experience a passaggio
or not. " Also, when you said "where you may experience a passaggio or
not" what did you mean? Is it possible to reach a point where you need to
add more head voice, but not experience a passaggio? What would a person
who experiences a passaggio at that point feel or need to do versus someone
who doesn't experience a passaggio?

Thanks for your responses,
Sandra

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