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From:  "Caio Rossi" <caioross@z...>
Date:  Mon Apr 17, 2000  5:16 pm
Subject:  Re: [vocalist-temporary] Question about affirmations


Judy wrote:

>There's a big difference between being in doubt and being convinced that
>something will not work. If you are doubtful, affirmations can still work.

What you said makes no sense, since affirming comes from believing, not the
opposite.

>Once again, you seem to want to willfully misinterpret what others have
said.
> An affirmation is not a magic wand, or new age voodoo. It is a useful tool
>that is based on the workings of the subconscious mind.

Not really! It's based on popular suppositions/superstitions about the
functioning of the subconscious mind, not on evidences. Those bestselling
books use unusual, difficult and traditionally academic words trying to
borrow from science its popular acceptance, although this kind of concept is
generally held by those who lack any scientific background at all. Authors,
publishing houses, tv broadcasters, etc sell those pseudo-scientific beliefs
to people willing to improve their lives, trying to make more money, be more
successful, while those very same publishing houses, broadcasters and
authors have an extremely well-planned, target-oriented, market-aware
strategy based on realistic assessment of the reality ( in this case,
popular misconceptions ) to make millions selling that crap. Not much
different from Pavarotti's supposedly charitable events, etc.
An extremely accurate demonstration of that, and a good example for those
who hold New Age-ish beliefs based on people like Fritjof Capra, can be
found in English at this address: . There you'll be able to see how much
Capra actually knows of mysticism.

>Finally, if the world were always as "logical and realistic" as you insist,
>bumblebees would not be able to fly, let alone the Spruce Goose.

You mean they fly regarless of physical laws??!! Just by affirming to
themselves they can do it?! You definitely think you live in Matrix.

>And man
>would never have set foot on the moon.

You mean those engineers, physicists, physicians, etc involved in the
project were not logical and realistic?! Pay a visit to Nasa's website and
change your mind. You shouldn't believe exhorting propaganda so easily.
Selling the image of reaching the unreachable is great for governments to
sell the idea that they did something superhuman. Bread and circus!


>"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
>persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress
>depends on the unreasonable man."
>--George Bernard Shaw
>"I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination
is
>more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles
>the world." --Albert Einstein

Oh, citations... It seems to me that the so-called 'unreasonable man' above
just stood out for being more reasonable than the others. Concerning
Einstein's, I can't imagine him coming up with relativistic physics without
imagination and knowledge combined. Just another mistake of his, to be added
to what he said of quantum physics.

Bye,

Caio Rossi

P.S.: since this discussion seems to have gone off-topic a long time ago,
and I confess it was also my fault, this will be my last e-mail on the list
regarding that. Those who want to keep discussing this, pls let's do it
privately.


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