Caio,
When you talk about the 'English aspirated H... like in Loch Ness', you really mean the SCOTTISH 'aspirated H'. English people find that sound very difficult, and very few of them can say it. Loch Ness is not in England, it is in Scotland; as far as I know, there are no lochs in England, loch is a Scottish word with a similar meaning to the English word 'lake'.
I do realise that this is difficult for foreigners to understand, but England and Scotland are separate countries. England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland together make up the political entity known as the United Kingdom, or UK for short. Frequently, the terms Britain, or Great Britain (not because it was great, but to distinguish it from Brittany in France), or British are used to mean the same thing, but strictly speaking that is not accurate because it does not include Northern Ireland.
Outside the UK, England is usually used to mean the whole of the United Kingdom, and that really annoys us Scots! :-)
Rant over.
Having said all that, I basically agree with you about thinking that there are 3 'R' sounds: I would call the French 'R' the uvular 'R' bwcause it is made at the back of the mouth (and incidentally sounds quite different to me from the 'CH' sound in loch), the English 'R' and the Italian 'R'. Most Scots basically use the Italian 'R', but make it shorter; some Scots use the English 'R'.
Regards, Sheila
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In message <001b01c05164$78db6ec0$31c0bbc8@l...>, Caio Rossi In message <001b01c05164$78db6ec0$31c0bbc8@l...>, Caio Rossi <caioross@z...> writes <caioross@z...> writes
>I can't distinguish more >than 3 Rs: the French one ( similar to the English aspirated H, but with the >back of the tongue pressing back, I guess like in LoCH Ness ) , the English >one ( as in Right, or the American caR ) and the Spanish/Italian/ Portuguese >flipped R (as in aRRiba- longer in Spanish, but basically the same >articulation ). Is there any other possibility? > >Thanks, > >Caio Rossi >
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