I'm not German, but since no German listers seem to have responded I'll take a stab. (I have been told by German speakers more than once that I *do* pronounce German like a native though.). I generally flip the 'r' very gently at the end of a syllable, somewhat more strongly at the beginning. This would be for Lieder. I notice that as Papageno I roll them a bit more, and still more in a Praetorius thing I did a few years ago, so I think period and genre must be taken into consideration. For me this is a matter of both taste and consistency, and thus somewhat personal. john
At 09:51 PM 10/22/00 -0400, you wrote: >Dear list, >More and more the final 'r' in German lyric diction is being treated as a >schwa /@/ or as the upside-down lowercase 'a' (lowest back vowel). I >continue to teach all r's as flipped or rolled with the caution that current >practice is changing. I do this because most voice teachers and many >coaches treat the r's as flipped and many native-speaking singers of German >still flip all r's. > >I do not like the use of the 'upsidedown a' because it puts stress where >none should be. I'm not wild about using the schwa either. In both cases >the dropping of the final 'r' as a consonant promotes more glottal onsets >when following words begin with vowels (in beginning singers). Eg. nur >ein, der eine, er ists, etc. > >How do you deal with the 'r' these days? I don't teach German until next >semester but I'm really wrestling with how far to go with this detail of the >language. It's probably not worth going into in depth for a freshman >diction class but I want my students to be as current as necessary with >performance practice. > >As I listen to CDs of Lieder and opera I hear that most r's are flipped or >rolled and this will always be the sound my ear prefers for these artforms. >My allegiance is still to Siebs! > >FYI, I'm not inexperienced as a diction teacher. I've taught it >successfully for 25 years. I'm just trying to decide what to do and how >much to do. > >Thanks for listening and thanks in advance for your input. >Cindy Donnell > > > > > > > > > John Blyth Baritono robusto e lirico Brandon, Manitoba, Canada
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