Tako wrote:
> Does this mean classical composers were not members of their populations?
Here we go again, and again:
Populace (from the American Heritage Dictionary): 1. The common people, the
masses. 2. A population.
I was obviously referring to the first meaning: the masses x the elite. The
masses have traditionally been a group of people with no or little formal
education, mostly before the 30's. In the past, only the elite was educated
enough to even care about the arts ( hard and soft sciences included ).
Assuming classical composers had the same background as the populace is a
historical mistake, and assuming that regardless of that different
background they would get to the same point is plain mistake.
I know that second assumption is the very basis of the American culture:
protestantism is based upon it, and that perspective has been inherited by
the ascending urban middle class, although being irreligious and
pro-abortion. That is the very same reason why that computer geek I think
you yourself quoted here some time ago thinks he owes nothing to the past.
He doesn't know what culture is. He's been catapulted to the summit of the
American society without knowing where logical thinking came from. HE IS A
REAL JERK.
I'm not complaining about the American society only, since that can be found
all over the world, but that's much more meaningful in the heart of the most
powerful country in the world than anywhere else.
> Or do you mean they must have a special kind of academic or career status?
No, I mean that for you to learn music, arts, acting, languages,etc, at the
level classical music demands you have to have access to the academy, to
those who have kept and developed what came before. Do you think people
working in the fields in the 19th century would ever care about that? In the
20th century, as the ascending middle class has access to both worlds,
crossovers come up here and there ( 'Yes' and 'Angra', the Brazilian band
whose sound sample you listened to, are good examples ) but unfortunately
that very same ascending middle class stupidly depreciates what they can't
understand- due to the influence of the Left, which confuses appreciation
for popular culture with revolution, in a mixture of misunderstood marxism
and pseudo-anthropology ( I've already talked about that here, so I won't
repeat myself ).
Bye,
Caio Rossi
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