In a message dated 04/08/2000 8:02:40 PM Central Daylight Time, caioross@z... writes:
<< That is: [j] and [y] are phonetic symbols for the same sound, but in different systems ( IPA and EPD-14 and some others ). If Alan didn't mean the symbol, but the letter, so he shouldn't have written: ' I cannot find any reason why a [y] (French "u" or German "ü") ...' He put it in brackets, though I have to confess I think phonetic symbols are written between slashes only. >>
No, I'm sorry, but [y] and [j] are not phonetic symbols for the same sound in IPA, which is the most commonly used system for singers. Please refer to the International Phonetic Alphabet website, www.arts.gla.ac.uk/IPA/fullchart.html. On this site [y] is clearly defined as a vowel, [j] is defined under consonants as a palatal approximate (which I guess means a glide).
[j] defines the sound of the letter "y" as in "young" or the letter "j" in the German word "jung." Both glides, [w] and [j] are really combinations of vowel sounds [u] and [i] plus their subsequent letter but are not phoneticized that way.
Christine Thomas Mezzo-Soprano Wauwatosa, WI
"I love to sing-a, about the moon-a and the June-a and the spring-a"
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