| From: "lestaylor2003 <LesTaylor@a... Date: Wed Jan 29, 2003 5:03 pm Subject: Re: [vocalist] Practical Singing
| Thanks for the welcome Lloyd, glad to be back. ********************************************** Lloyd: Are you then suggesting that objective study has no place in suggestive pursuits? ********************************************** No, no, not at all (and I really hope you meant "subjective" instead of "suggestive".:-)). We should try to make as much sense as possible of any circumstances under which we have to work. To communicate well, we must have common terms that are as standard and real as possible. That is why solving the terminology problem is such a very high priority and should be for us.
Again, I agree that it is nigh onto impossible to separate subjective matters from objective one, even when it comes to pure science. Your description of what I think of as "fuzzy logic" was well expressed. We have to "fill in the blanks" in order to keep on functioning in any sort of practical manner. I assume that most of us use the best methods (techniques) we can find until we discover those that prove to work better.
I agree that science offers us excellent methods for determining cause and effect and for documenting phenomena even when they don't make sense to us. That we should be as systematic as we can be in our approach to understanding singing just makes good sense to me.
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I often wonder whether we apply science to singing appropriately. Isn't the objective to learn (and to teach) cause and effect as accurately as possible? By that I mean what do we do (or tell our students to do) to get the desired effect? Many aspects of singing are documentable. For instance, we have a very scientific means of categorizing uttered sounds in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA). We have standards for pitch that are (literally) very rational and scientific. We have means of documenting vocal performance intensity, frequency and harmonics for analysis. In my opinion, all that stuff doesn't do any good if the teacher doesn't know what to tell the student to do in order to help them sing closer to the way they want to.
A subject for another thread that occurs to me here is just how much of our own tastes should we impose on our students? Should we help them discover what their voice can do and leave stylistic preferenced entirely to them or should we guide them in the direction of the style of music we truly feel will be best for their instrument?
Now for the nitty gritty . . . I have profound respect for those who study anatomic function in singing but I am dubious about the value of too detailed a study in it. The knowledge to diagnose dysfunction is essential for voice teachers but we have to be able to associate that knowledge with what the student tells us they are feeling. They may not know how to tell us what they're experiencing in any other terms but their own very idiomatic and subjective ones.
A teacher can know the names of all the anatomical features in the body but how exactly will that help their student sing an easy high G? Wouldn't a teacher who says "Try opening your mouth more as you approach pitches in your upper range and modify your vowels toward a schwa within the area of your passagi" be more effective than one who would launch into a detailed description of the function of each of the muscles all the way from the pelvic area to the crown of the head? Regards, Les
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