| From: "mjmoody2000 <mjmoody@c... Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 1:03 pm Subject: Re: messa di voce
| --- In vocalist-temporary@yahoogroups.com, "Lloyd W. Hanson" <lloyd.hanson@n...> wrote:
> It is a major error to practice messa di voce by beginning with a > breathy tone or a falsetto tone because these tones are the product > of partially adducted (closed) vocal folds and the exercise is then > one of attempting to gradually close the vocal folds to achieve a > loud tone and opening the folds to return to the breathy beginning > tone. Such an exercise does not achieve the goals of the messa de > voce which is to gain control over the increase in amplitude of > oscillation of the vocal folds and the resultant adjustments this > requires of the thyroarytenoid and antagonistic cricothyroid muscles > as the amplitude increases and decreases.
Still, I think the primary goal of the exercise is starting with a "head-voice" tone and adding the weight of the chest voice to it.
I think of MAJOR importance is what the singer feels - regardless of whatever the voice analyzer is saying is going on. I can start a tone softly in my chest voice and get it louder again and softer again, and - big deal. Nothing really was accomplished. On the other hand, I can start the tone softly in the head voice, crescendo until I sense that the resonance from the chest voice has been attached to the tone and decrescendo till I feel only the head voice is active again. Here I feel something totally different, and the sound of the tone is an entirely different (and better) sound.
Also, in spite of all the terminology, I feel essentially two basic "control" groups operate my voice. There is a "thick" control group that is most like when I talk, and there is a "thin" control group that I found out about from my falsetto. With each group there are MANY variations possible, but I can still feel which function is in "control" of the tone. Reid and Frisell call these two control groups "Chest voice" and "Falsetto."
I'm not sure exactly what Reid thinks on the matter. I know that Frisell thinks that ultimately the falsetto group can control the entire voice from its highest to lowest notes. He calls this the "head voice training system." To a large extent the basis behind it is this messa di voce principle. Both "messa di voces" I described in the first full paragraph have feelings associated with them. The first example feels like it is controlled by the chest voice and the second example feels like it is controlled by the "head voice." At the loud part of the messa di voce the voice sounds like it is in chest voice but the singer feels like chest quality is being added to the head voice. When this is strong in the region of G4 or so (for a male singer) it can be brought down to the region of C4. When it is strong in the region of C4 it can be brought down to the region of G or A3. When the G3 messa di voce is working well the G4 forte will be stronger because the voice will be able to accept more weight. This process goes on until the singer feels that the entire range is being controlled by the head-voice muscle group.
Frisell thinks that any time the chest voice muscle group is functioning alone it is damaging to the voice. This is the major difference between his "method" and Reids "method" as far as I can see.
Once the upper notes are functioning well Frisell contends that the singer will face an impasse of sorts because the singer will sense that the lower notes should function the same way, and most often they can not function that way because the head voice controls are initially weak in the lower octave of voices.
This is too long. Sorry. I think "causality" is crucial. Merely starting soft and getting louder and softer again may not be enough. Merely making a bad tone louder does not accomplish much. I think the entire goal of the exercise is to attach chest voice weight to a head voice tone, and this can be a daunting task.
John
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