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From:  "John Cheshire" <vocalist@c...>
Date:  Fri Nov 22, 2002  5:32 pm
Subject:  Re: [vocalist] vocalist.org !!!

Dear Lloyd and all,

> Please go into more detail about your being the "owner" of
> Vocalist.org.

More detail and some history.....

I am the registered owner of the web site address www.vocalist.org
I do not own the mailing list.

HISTORY:
> Was the original Vocalister under the "org" title? Is
> that how Marko created it in Finland? Does Marko no longer have any
> rights to any form of the "Vocalist" title?
The original Vocalist mailing list was started in September 12th, 1994 on
lists.oulu.fi - run by Oulu University in Finland ( managed by Marko ).
The website vocalist.org was started in, I think September 1997, to promote
the mailing list, run by Marko and hosted by Oulu University Computer Services
Center, Finland ( at that time the list was served by lists.oulu.fi and promoted
from vocalist.org ).
In July 1999, the mailing list moved from the Oulu University mailing list
server
to being served from vocalist.org
In March 2000 the vocalist.org mailing list ceased working and many of the
original members moved to vocalist-temporary.
In August 2000, Marko posted a message on the vocalist.org website to
apologise for the interruption to service of the mailing list and to say that he
would
soon explain what had happened.
The months went by and by July of this year the website address had not been
renewed. Marko had done a fantastic job, but he was no longer operating the
mailing
list and he relinquished ownership of the web address vocalist.org
An opportunist in China saw that the web address was available and purchased it
with no more intention than to hold it and sell at a vast profit. In the
meantime he
pointed www.vocalist.org to so called "Top Finds" including online casinos.

PRESENT:
I registered www.vocalist.nu to provide a simple "portal" for the mailing list.
vocalist.nu was not to run the mailing list, but to provide a website with
information
pointing to the list.
I became increasingly annoyed that the well known previous home of the list was
being held by someone who had no interest in the list. I contacted the Chinese
owner and negotiated what I felt was a fair price.
So, vocalist.nu is now redundant and I moved it's content to www.vocalist.org

> If Vocalist is now under your complete ownership,what can we as
> listers expect from your ownership? Ect. Etc.

1. The mailing list stays as it is. I have no current intention of running the
mailing list, although I am not saying that I would not potentially offer the
service in the future ( free of charge ).

2. As I already explained, I have made available a partial
pre-vocalist-temporary
archive at www.vocalist.org, free of charge.

3. I own the website address and have final control over the website content,
but I feel
the Vocalist List has a historical right to use the vocalist.org web address as
it's online identity. I therefore invite any requests for additions to the site
- articles,
sub-sections ( there used to be a separate Diction area ), links to Vocalisters'

sites, etc.

4. I am also confused by Dre's comments about "Allen".

John





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