In a message dated 6/23/2002 12:57:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lloyd.hanson@n... writes:
> the singers > >lloyd mentioned (sinatra, bennett, fitzgerald, etc.) are all great singers > >but, they exhibit a use of the voice that is distinctly different from the > >classical model. > > I would, respectfully, disagree with your last sentence. The pop > singers I mentioned exhibit a use of the voice, in terms of vocal > technique, that distinctly the same as the technical use of the voice > by classical singers. Matters such as use of vibrato, conversation > voice or non-singing voice, tone color changes, etc which are a part > of the 30's to 50's voice stylings were expression choices, not the > sign of a different vocal technique. >
lloyd,
i have to wonder if you and i are operating under the same definition of technique.
a while back, we had a discussion on a similar topic and the singing of mel torme came up. if i remember correctly, you suggested that mel torme sang with the same technique as a good classical singer. and now, you mention bocelli in the same sentence as those who would simulate classical technique using amplification and that this simulation is dependent on that amplification.
i hope you would agree that mel torme produced a sound that is very different from those who sing classical music well. (after all, he produced a sound that was so breathy, he was nicknamed 'the velvet fog'.) if you mean to say that if a good classical singer were to produce the same sound torme produced, they would use the same method to produce such a sound, then i can see that you are using 'technique' in the broadest sense.
however, such use of 'technique' is independent of any style of music. it is the use of the voice in the most efficient manner for a variety of purposes. i would agree that some tasks cannot, as of yet, be accomplished without threatening the health of the voice attempting it. but, there is still a most efficient method for accomplishing that task, causing the singer to 'die a day later' than the less efficient methods.
there are classical singers who exhibit incredible control of their voices and many who don't (perhaps you include bocelli in this group?). those who do, posses great technique. those who do not, posses poor technique. the same is true of singers in all styles of music. i will grant you that there are some styles where poor technique is less of an issue and some styles where the technical challenges presented by the music are easily overcome.
concerning those who would attempt to 'sustain a scream' as their form of singing, i think i would have to know of whom you are speaking before i could address that point.
mike
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