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From:  Ian Belsey <Idbelsey@y...>
Ian Belsey <Idbelsey@y...>
Date:  Sun Oct 21, 2001  11:55 am
Subject:  Re: [vocalist] Vocal Pedagogy direction? Long & Opinion to Mike mostly!



> ah! the joys of incidental disagreement...
>
> << Mind you, still not quite convinced by lower
> voices
> for instance doing the crooner thing. . .? Having
> said
> that, I'd far rather have Moon River than Mozart's
> Figaro anyday!! Lol! >>
>
> are you saying that it is wrong (bing, dick
> haymes, late frank, joe
> williams, scott walker, etc.) for lower voices to do
> the crooner thing? or,
> just not your preference? englebert humperdink
> (the real one, not that
> silly opera composer guy) is a baritone, so are
> scott walker and 'old
> blue-balls'. do you consider baritone to be other
> than a lower voice?
>

Hi Mike,

Just thought I'd say hi and send you this privately.
Re. your thoughts on the crooner thing and baritono's,
I think the baritone voice is the hardest and perhaps
most interesting to deal with? It's certainly very
useful!!! However, I do think lots of people get it
very confused in relation to it's bass & tenor
counterparts. These days I tend to say "I'm, a singer.
Sometimes I sing high, sometimes low", that seems to
shut people up! If you have, as I do, a long range,
the minute you go up to the top part, people are
always saying "Are you sure you're not a tenor?" etc.
Very aggravating. I'm certainly not saying it's wrong
for a lower voice to do the crooner thing: as far as
I'm concerned, it's marvellous. I'd much rather have
Gordon MacCrae crooning away, than some clapped out
operatic baritone whoofing with some ugly manufactured
tone. I've no idea what this is turning into now, but
what the Hell!! I know!!! I meant that lots of
'baritones' try and do a pop type thing, but it just
sounds like very bad karaoke!! There, that's it I
think?

Take care, and I must say that you constantly write
sensible posts which are interesting and human. Some
of the people on here are nothing but wankers!!!

Speak to you soon.

Ian x

ps: Love the term 'old blue balls!! hehehe

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