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From:  "Lee Morgan" <LMorgan923@t...>
"Lee Morgan" <LMorgan923@t...>
Date:  Wed Apr 25, 2001  12:00 am
Subject:  RE: [vocalist] Bach MAGNIFICAT editions


I think the Neue Bach-Ausgabe is a perfectly acceptable source. If I
remember my music history classes correctly (don't even ask how long it's
been!), composers prior to the Classical period didn't use a lot of dynamic
markings. I generally take dynamic markings for music before Mozart with a
grain of salt as some editor's idea of what they should be. Maybe good
ideas and maybe not, but probably not directly from the composer.
I did a B-Minor Mass last year for which the conductor did a ton of
research. He used the Barenreiter edition, and I trust his choice. The
last time I did the Magnificat, the conductor (a different conductor) also
is one who researches his music well, and he also used the Barenreiter.
My church organist is a retired organ teacher from a well-respected organ
program, and I know whenever there's a question about a Bach piece that I
bring in, she consults the Neue Bach-Ausgabe. So overall, I think you're
probably in pretty good shape using the Barenreiter editions if that's what
they're based on.
I would certainly trust the Peters editions for German Romantic literature
(again, trusting my memory, I believe they were the original publisher for
some of the works of either Brahms or Schumann or both), but I don't know
how good their scholarship is for earlier periods. I also expect their
editions are probably older than Barenreiter's and may not be as in keeping
with contemporary ideas on historic accuracy. So given all this, I would
probably choose the Barenreiter over the Peters.

Lee Morgan
Mezzo-soprano

-----Original Message-----
From: David Grogan [mailto:dgrogan@e...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 6:58 PM
To: vocalist-temporary@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vocalist] Bach MAGNIFICAT editions


I am not a Bach expert either, but isn't the Bach Gesellschaft supposed to
be the purest edition? Here is a link to Amazon.com's listing of that
edition of the Magnificat. I think it costs $11.00

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0486288048/vocalistint00-20

For whatever it's worth...

David Grogan
ETBU Music
Marshall, Texas
dgrogan@e...
dgrogan@e...

"The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese."

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Mercedes" <dalila@R...>
From: "Karen Mercedes" <dalila@R...>
To: <vocalist-temporary@yahoogroups.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 5:17 PM
Subject: [vocalist] Bach MAGNIFICAT editions


> I just bought a second of Bach's MAGNIFICAT in D, the Baerenreiter
> edition. I've been working for years with the Edition Peters edition, and
> I was *very* interested to see just how different these two editions are.
> Where Edition Peters is extremely detailed in providing tempo markings and
> dynamic markings, the Baerenreiter edition provides very few tempo
> markings, and no dynamic markings.
>
> Given these are both good publishers, my question is this: who's right?
> Are the tempo and dynamic markings in the Edition Peters version Bach's
> own, or the editor's "suggestions"? Or was the Baerenreiter editor just
> lazy? The Baerenreiter states that its score is based on the Neue
> Bach-Ausgabe. There is no information in the Edition Peters score about
> its provenance.
>
> I'm not even remotely a Bach expert, but I AM very curious about which of
> these scores I should be working with. Any experts out there want to
> weigh in?
>
> KM
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