In a message dated 3/25/2001 1:20:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, ibracamonte@y... writes: ibracamonte@y... writes:
<< To mike, who believes that calling a composer "unsingable" is just an excuse not to work hard and that great art is allowed to demand only the greatest singers, I would say that understanding the limitations of an instrument does not degrade the quality of the art.>>
isabelle,
calling a composer (like mozart, for example) whose music has been sung, 'unsingable' is not the fault of composer, it is the fault of the singer, either due to a lack of talent, work ethic, technique or any combination of the previous. i don't mean that anybody who can't sing mozart is a lazy piece of trash, i just mean that singer does not have the ability to sing mozart.
<< I could write a smashing piece for piano that would, unfortunately, require three hands to play. Waiting until someone with three hands is born and saying, "Well, the rest of you nincompoops just aren't good enought to breathe life into my Art" isn't a very intelligent stance, nor does it make me a very intelligent composer. You work within the limitations of the art form and you make it look good (a la Michaelangelo working with marble, for instance), or else it is your fault, not the stone's, for asking something it cannot give. Understanding how an instrument works is part of your responsibility if you compose for that instrument. Simply throwing up your hands because the stone won't bend is your failing as a sub-par artist.>>
taking this to the opposite extreme; if a composer's music can't be sung by the lowest rung on the ladder, he doesn't understand the voice? what are you? some kind of maoist?
<<Yes, Abigaille is also unsingable, unfortunately. What can I say -- maybe Verdi hadn't gotten the hang of it yet.>>
i've heard abigaille sung. you mean; you can't sing it, so far.
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unless a composer is writing for the absolute beginner, there is no reason to expect to be able to perform his/her music. a composer who writes something hellishly difficult and is surprised that most singers find it so, probably doesn't understand the voice. but a composer who writes difficult music, knowing it to be so, is choosing the exactness of his statement over the likelihood of frequent performances. a singer then is either someone who can or someone who can't perform that piece.
i think composers should understand the instruments they are writing for. to not understand the instrument is to miss an oppurtunity to take full advantage of it. alicia de larocha, a great pianist, is (was?) never going to perform the 'symphonic etudes'. does that mean schumann didn't understand the piano? by then, he sure had a better idea how the hand didn't work. the voice is a far more varied instrument than any other (even the ocarina). if there are many voices that cannot sing a piece of music, there is always the hope that some freak who can, exists.
mike
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